[Ipg-smz] Bro culture in action

[Tom Geller]

On 15 Feb 2019, at 17:52, Richard Santalesa <rsantalesa at smartedgelaw.com> wrote:

> I think you will have to agree that the #MeToo movement was accompanied by, in various quarters, the push of a #BelieveAllWomen corollary

That's quite an assertion! So let's quantify, as journalists do.

Google shows about 353K hits for #BelieveAllWomen and 196,000K hits for #MeToo. That's one in ~500, or 2/10ths of 1%. 

Even if #BelieveAllWomen was always paired with #MeToo (it's not), that's far below what a reasonable person would say "accompanies by, in various quarters". They are not fellow travelers.

But check this out. On Twitter, it appeared every single one of the 50 most recent #BelieveAllWomen-tagged Tweets are using it ironically, to pretend -- as you're doing -- that it's sincerely used in the wild.

Your statement is definitively false. ("the #MeToo movement was accompanied by, in various quarters, the push of a #BelieveAllWomen corollary.")

> which not only damaged the valid attention that should be paid to the #MeToo issue, but then set the stage for blowback as we’ve seen.

I would oppose such a wrongheaded and prejudicial idea as #BelieveAllWomen -- if, again, it existed. But, nope, overwhelmingly it's a false flag. And you fell for it.

Back to the topic: Journalists examine, quantify, analyze. It's not that hard, but it takes time.

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> On 15 Feb 2019, at 17:52, Richard Santalesa <rsantalesa at smartedgelaw.com> wrote:
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> Not sure how you make that Evil Knievel-level leap of what I’m suggesting. My comments are reserved EXCLUSIVELY to the scenario I’m describing in the context of a false accusation’s consequences and the results of the situation in responses by men.  
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> I think you will have to agree that the #MeToo movement was accompanied by, in various quarters, the push of a #BelieveAllWomen corollary, which not only damaged the valid attention that should be paid to the #MeToo issue, but then set the stage for blowback as we’ve seen.
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> From: Ipg-smz [mailto:ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org] On Behalf Of Tom Geller
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:33 AM
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> On 15 Feb 2019, at 17:24, Richard Santalesa <rsantalesa at smartedgelaw.com <mailto:rsantalesa at smartedgelaw.com>> wrote:
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>> If doesn’t matter if 99.9% of people are not falsely accused as the consequences of being falsely accused are so nuclear that
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> You're suggesting that *being accused of* rape is worse than *being* raped. We disagree. 
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> Anyway, you're getting far away from the flawed original concepts: That #MeToo is an accusation per se, or has led to an increase in false accusations. Journalists don't parrot such nonsense.
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