[Ipg-smz] Tchotchke

Fri Jan 25 12:14:47 UTC 2019

My Irish mother learned some yiddish because we were on Long Island. We
called Massapequa "Matzoh Pizza" because half our neighbors were Jewish and
half Italian. My friends were surprised in high school when I revealed I
was Roman Catholic.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:25 PM Tom Henderson <thenderson at extremelabs.com>
wrote:

> The extra L is the way I learned it. How did my Irish mother know Yiddish?
> She picked up German after WW2. Spoke French and Gaelic (now and then). My
> friend JohnnyG  knew Hebrew, Yiddish, German, and yes, Gaelic because his
> nanny was Irish off-the-boat. Me? Scots English, Canadian English. UK
> English, Hoosier English, French & Creole, words my parents spoke to
> obfuscate their conversation, which turned out to be mostly Yiddish learned
> from my mother, whose nanny was, yes, Russian Jewish. Twelve years of
> Latin. ASL/ISL. C. Assembler. Perl. Py. My life has been language
> constructs with crappy vocabulary lessons. Always the vocabulary. Amo Amas
> Amat....veni vidi video.
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> Tom
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> On 1/24/19 8:48 PM, Mac McCarthy wrote:
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> Naiman's book has this distinction in it. Howver, it spells the rwo words
> with an 'l'.": schlemiel and schlemazel.
>
> Mac
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> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 5:43 PM Stephen Lawton <sl at afab.com> wrote:
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>> Gina – there’s a wonderful little book called Yiddish for Yankees. It
>> gives you a variety of Yiddish terms and their translation.  For example,
>> there’s the schimazel and the. schimel. Let’s say two people are going down
>> a flight of stairs and one kicks over a bucket of water. That guy’s really
>> a schimazel. The one it lands on – he’s a schimel.  Nice, practical
>> definitions.
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>> *From:* Ipg-smz [mailto:ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org] *On Behalf Of *Gina
>> Smith
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 2:03 AM
>> *To:* ipg-smz at netpress.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ipg-smz] Tchotchke
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>> I don’t know from Yiddish, but I’m enjoying the heck out of this strand ..
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>> Gs
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>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:26 PM David Chernicoff <david at chernicoff.com>
>> wrote:
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>> And for those of you who still want to work on their Yiddish
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>> https://www.broadway.com/shows/fiddler-roof-yiddish/
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>> *From:* Ipg-smz <ipg-smz-bounces at netpress.org> on behalf of Carol
>> Pinchefsky <will_edit_for_food at mac.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2019 5:51:58 PM
>> *To:* ipg-smz at netpress.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ipg-smz] Tchotchke
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>> Ellen,
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>> If you plug "a shame" into Google Translate, the Yiddish it gives you is
>> "a shande."   Which a lot of people know.  As in, "a shande far di goyim,"
>> i.e., a disgrace in front of non-Jews, as in, "Stephen Miller is a shonda
>> far di goyim."   with Michael Cohen right behind him; let's not even go
>> there/*Lomir afile nit gayn dortn.*
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>> BUT if you put "a pity" into Google Translate, which also works for what
>> I wanted to say, you get back "A shod.”
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>> Ah. Different words. Thanks.
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>> Carol,
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>> I took a whole year of Yiddish in college; it's old, long-term memory.
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>> Ellen
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>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:59 PM Carol Pinchefsky <
>> will_edit_for_food at mac.com> wrote:
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>> Hi-ho, all. Particularly Ellen Muraskin.
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>> "A *shod. *(A shame.)”
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>> I think the word is “shond.” I think.
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>> Carol
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>> Who only remembers a few words in Yiddish. But tchotchke is one of them.
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>> Long ago and far away, for the Networld-InterOp Daily News, I was asked
>> to do an article on tchotchke. Usually, I wrote what *I* thought was
>> interesting. A request from ON HIGH, as the concept of branding was coming
>> into vogue, asked if I could do such a piece. I demurred. It was an easy
>> piece to write.
>>
>> Few other pieces I've written have provoked such a strong reaction, a
>> cavalcade of tchotchke ratings, complaints, hoarder museum pieces, and
>> more. After everyone got past *WTF Is Tchotchke?*, most everyone had an
>> opinion, including: recycling the stuff (the food chain of trade show
>> t-shirts was interesting), water bottles (Junior's going to look cool with
>> this in middle school), and the onerous: these are bribes with logos.
>>
>> A couple of wags related how they waited until the show was about to
>> close, then offered extraordinarily low-ball offers to just take the booth
>> demo units home with them, sometimes benefiting in the tens of thousands of
>> dollars from weary booth personnel. Some were gifted stuff, as in here,
>> just take it.
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>> Knowing the drayage costs, I can see why.
>>
>> Tom
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>> On 1/23/19 12:41 PM, Dana Blankenhorn wrote:
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>> Yiddish continues to fade, as Israel discourages it in favor of modern
>> Hebrew.
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>> Modern Hebrew is surprisingly similar to Arabic, btw, when you square off
>> the letters.
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>> Also, Sahara means desert in Arabic.
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>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 12:13 PM Stephen Satchell <ipg at satchell.net>
>> wrote:
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>> On 1/23/19 9:09 AM, Steve Wexler wrote:
>> > Chutzpah: "gall, brazen nerve, effrontery, incredible 'guts',
>> presumption
>> > plus arrogance such as no other word and no other language can do
>> justice
>> > to".
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>> I always think of the word as "leading with your chin, and getting away
>> with it."
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